Shepard was bleeding out, pretty much dead when they walked into the explosion. Let me just say, thanks for all the replies btw. Also, let's just agree that the writers only had Shepard waking up to get people hyped for DLC and to try and make the Destroy ending have more differences than the color red. I still believe that Shepard should not have survived Mass Effect 3's Ending as a whole because Shepard either got hit by the laser or was close enough to become ash Which they should have done anyway.
Just think about this - Shepard's shields are not stronger than a standard Alliance ship, Shepard is not superman so how did they survive all of that crap? He was an absolute hero and I'll always remember him. Show some love for Mr. Shields and keep him in your heart until the end of your days. Whatever makes it fun for you.
Ultimately we just need to admit that the endings for ME3 were not their best work. Yes, Shepard should have died from the laser, the explosion, the gut wounds, the burns, the fall, the catastrophe.
What I think is that the Catalyst lied to Shepard, withholding some options and in his wounded state Shepard just accepted it.
Everyone knows the ME3 endings were garbage, and the indoctrination theory was debunked by the devs. Explore Wikis Community Central. Register Don't have an account? This is true regardless of how many war assets you managed to gather before the final battle, and regardless of how many races you managed to rally to your cause. Likewise, the majority of the Destruction endings will lead to Shepard being wiped out in the Reaper-destroying blast from the Crucible. This will leave all organic life alive while destroying every reaper in the universe.
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The Debate. Breaking News. So we have listed all the information about the endings here. Starting with that Prothean beacon on Eden Prime and several other beacons later.
For whatever reason, Shepard was the first organic able to confront the Reapers to the point of having that conversation with the Catalyst. She is not their thrall, she is equal to them.
Shepard can't be indoctrinated, but can be convinced. Hence they are giving her the choice. There's a fourth ending where you don't stop the Reapers and let the Reapers win it's the one I did my first play-through. I initiated by simply turning around with my gun and shot the blue ghost boy in the head. It then goes to a ending where it shows a computer playing Liara's time capsule she made and then where the child and old man talking in the end say how they need to learn the lessons of the past so the Reapers will not come again.
Exactly my thoughts. I may be really sad that Tali had to be left alone without Sheppard and it's sad he ended up dying but It removes the reaper threat, and allows for future proofing any ai problems. It allows for a happier society, longer life, better technology and everything Still confuses me how something that important wont have any relevance to ME:andromeda.
You resist by choosing Chaos ending What about the Defiance ending? Is it not only Chaos but also recognizing that this is an indoctrination attempt? How is it that the defiance ending is different from the Chaos ending? You choose to destroy the reapers rather than joining them. You choose to do it, by believing that you can beat them with what you have. You can even shoot the illusion. So how does this fare with the theory?
Also, when you hear the statement, "They're gone", notice how they later state that the "Hammer division has been wiped out". They're saying that you and you're team are gone, not the reapers. Everything else seemingly falls into place. If this theory is true, the chaos ending, And I would argue, the defiance ending , should have revealed what actually happened rather than go with what Shepherd hallucinated.
It would have cleared things up. Just did my first trilogy run starting with Mass Effect 1 and ending with 3 and got the synthesis ending. I fail to see how the synthesis ending isn't the perfect ending? You literally sacrifice yourself so that ALL life born and unborn achieves a new level of transcendence. EDI even mentions this with the whole "mortality" thing. You die, but you essentially become a god or at least something akin to a demigod and the galaxy becomes a utopia.
If you destroy the reapers then organics will eventually just create them again in another thousand years or so and if you control them, then you're basically just pure evil and personally, I'd say indoctrinated. There are problems with ME3's endings my main issue is that there's so few and which one you get has nothing to do with any of your choices throughout the trilogy , but the simple fact of Shepard dying is not one of them.
I don't know why so many people think the hero of a story HAS to survive - it's far more profound and engaging if the hero has to sacrifice something, even themselves, in order to save everyone else. Some people need to learn the difference between a 'bad ending' and a 'sad ending' Just because Shepard survives in the destroy ending, it doesn't mean it's the perfect ending.
It's just a perfect ending for those who desperately want Shepard to survive. And the indoctrination theory is just a way to convince themselves that the destroy ending is the right choice. Kinda pathetic. Hi, I just got this ending and I think its the best ending too. The destruction of the reapers was the ultimate goal from the begin on, so yeah mission accomplished.
Also the galaxy is almost the same as before, except for some repairs to made relays , synthesis sucks imo. I chose to destroy them and got the "Perfect" ending one the first play through. This theory is incredible and only adds to depth of the story.
My question for you, however, is if this is indeed the case, what happened after Shepard "came back" from the battle in his mind? The kid and his grandpa are alive in the future sharing this story, so what happened? Mass relays destroying entire systems aside, its incredible to think of how what remains of technologically advanced worlds would rebuild so certain races could get back home to native planets and such.
They could easily make a trilogy of movies out of just what happens after since another game or three would probably be fairly boring as far as video games are concerned. But I'd love to hear a theory about regaining consciousness and independence from indoctrination and what happens after that to end the battle if he was never conscious after the harbinger beam.
I chosed Destroy, got some cartoon scenes, Joker and Liara first to go out of Normandy Normandy is repaired and flew of that planet and Shepard me think lives because hes chest moved on the end. Full Paragon imported from ME1. Is this the perfect ending? Hope you know if you turn around and shoot the VI then the cycle continues You forgot to mention that. I only had an EMS of and got Shepherd taking his gasp of air right before the credits and never played Muiltiplayer, I did however continue Shepard's story through all 3 games.
Now I have EMS, did all the paragon things in ME1, 2 and 3 imported character of course and I still got the secret ending of shepard, I was afraid first but I still got it Can someone explain that? I know that this page is really old but I was hoping someone could help me. I had ems and chose to destroy the reapers and was playing on an imported character from 2, but I hadn't imported my character from the first game to 2. I also didn't manage to make peace between the quarians and the geth.
Could either of those be the reason? I watched the end twice, garrus still puts my shepards name on the wall and no gasp for breath scene. I don't get why the destruction ending is considered the perfect ending, other than it is the only one where Shepard lives.
The entire point of not destroying the reapers is that synthetics will always rise up against organics that's why the reapers existed in the first place so to me it seems pointless to destroy them since eventually synthetics will wipe out all life anyway. It also seems pointless to control the reapers because if there is any indoctrination involved in the ending, that's definitely it they obviously indoctrinated Saren, The Illusive Man, etc.
The rejection ending seems ridiculous. The only thing being saved are the mass relays. All civilization gets wiped out, and then the next cycle has a much better chance of beating the reapers conventionally.
Again, though, the issue with synthetics wiping out humanity is there, though I suppose Liara's "beacon" could warn races against building synthetics. The other problem is that if we were too late receiving the information from the vastly superior Protheans, what ensures that our warnings will work any better? The rejection ending just doesn't seem promising overall. That's why I choose synthesis. First off, it's supposed to be the "ultimate ending" assuming it isn't another issue of indoctrination.
Organic and synthetic life being synthesized together solves all issues in the galaxy. The reapers help rebuild, possibly restore the civilizations that they have harvested over the last maybe millions of?
The issue with this is then, what is the purpose of anything in the galaxy? In essence, "what is the meaning of life? And would races still reproduce? Then wouldn't the krogan overpopulation issue be the issue for the entire galaxy? Would they have to expand into other galaxies with new, probably hostile species?
Or their own reapers? Or would people not live forever, or not be able to reproduce? If species couldn't reproduce, then all species would likely go insane, and if they didn't live forever, the only thing the synthesis achieved is stopping the uprising of synthetics. All the ramifications of the synthesis ending hurt my brain. I honestly think the best ending would be destroy the reapers, if the story developers would not have put in the suggestion that synthetics will always be a threat if you choose that ending.
Isocrates, I needed another choice for your survey,lol! I guess that plays really well with your indoctrination theory. I didn't like Synthesis because it forced that solution on everyone.
Control was out because I felt my character strength was my connection to my allies and how long would it take for me to become another catalyst with that connection cut off? Imagine how pissed I was when I found out shooting the Catalyst meant the cycle continues! I chose Synthesis the 2nd time around,figuring that at least saved the most lives even those who had become husks Guess that means I've been indoctrinated!!!
Jason, we originally fought Saren - only to find out he was under the control of Sovereign, out real enemy for ME1. In ME2, we fought the collectors, who we find out are Reaperized Protheans under the control of Harbinger - but we don't get to kill Harbinger. In ME3, we find out that the Reapers have made it to us after x amount of travel from dark space, spend the whole game getting set to fight the Reapers only to find out at the end that the Reapers are controlled by the Catalyst.
The catalyst We find out the Catalyst created the Reapers as "a" solution to a problem it was given by it's creators. Vague references are given about it's creators unless you played the Leviathan DLC. I'm just going to go out on a limb and say the enemy for ME4 has already been introduced - the Leviathan. Totally fits how the game has played out so far. The big question for me is whether Sheperd comes back or not. Perfect ending now with the destroy option shows a breathing body, even if you didn'tget the perfect ending the Lazarus Project of ME2 shows Sheperd "could" be restored.
The control option leaves Sheperd as a Guardian, not quite alive - but not gone either. The synthesize option gave me a flickering Sheperd standing in front of the Crucible beam before I was shown the shipwreck scene anyone else get this?
I just finished replaying all 3 games - hadn't played them since not ling after ME3 came out - and I have all the DLC packs for all 3.
With regards to ME3 I just got the perfect ending - the Normandy flew again, repairs to the citadel where underway, rebuilding on the different planets was under way, my name didn't get put on the wall and the breath thing with Shepard occurred, oh and the bit with the kid at the end with the 'one more story about the shepard'.
The way it ends now is so open for a follow on. The fleets are rebuilding, the relays are only damaged, the citadel is being repaired. Given there are 'unexplored relays' there could be a new threat waiting which would lead into the next storyline. The truth is what someone else said. You have to beat the game once You get a Crappy ending no matter what. AFTER the end credits role, it will say "shepard is now a legend. But i still don't know if it was the Best Choise.
I would Wanna know more about the 'Synthesis-path'. I don't know if any of you have tried to shoot the glowing kid the catalyst , you will have another ending that the standard three.
Under 4k ems, used the same save from me and got an ending where earth and all other planets survive, Normandy crashes but crew survive and Normandy takes off again. Then Shepard is lying in a pile of rubble and breathes showing life I do have all the dlc completed however plus the extended endings dlc so this maybe why! That was great! I really enjoyed to watch the explanation, I never looked at the end this way.
Now I understand the great thought behind the ending without the DLC. Still I like to believe that Shepard really make it to control the reapers or make a merge between the organic and synthetic life forms I like the union of the Quarians and the Geth and I want Joker to live happy with EDI.
If I will not believe in that, there is just too much death and sorrow And i know this is long after the game came out, but still dude.
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